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TRIUMPH MILES PER GALLON: (PAGE UPDATE: 05-09-24)
Forgot to give the mpg’s. I've recorded 72, 71.4, 72, and 71.5 mpg. So far so good. 485 miles now. T his is having fun riding and not worried about mpg’s. Mostly 55, 60, 65 mph. I am really surprised at how strong it pulls. I never would have thought it was this good or so much fun to ride. Now to find a 40 tooth for the rear, and 16 or 17 for the front. Wish JT sprockets would get busy and list the bike.
That’s it, Tripple Zip. Ben, 5462
(reply to Ben) Thank You, Ben! Happy to hear the merriment in your words! A new Thumper is truly a delight ... Keep On Thumpin' - #000
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Hey Jack and club members,
A word about my Triumph 400 Thumper gearing...
There's lots of discussion about it on the Triumph 400 forum. The consensus there is that a 16 tooth counter shaft sprocket would be a very tight fit and might interfere with the case. I don't think there's a 16 available yet to try, and if it would cause a fitment issue, probably never will be.
The Scrambler version is geared 14/43 and the Speed is 15/43, so many of the Scrambler folks are going to a 15, but using a compatible available version sold for a KTM 390. I've been looking for a 40ish rear sprocket, but found nothing yet. I suspect Triumph will eventually rethink the gearing, at least for the American market and go to taller gearing somehow.
As for the throttle sensitivity, it's definitely there on mine as well. It's very sudden and takes getting used to. My bike is very comfortable at 4K and loses some of the abrupt on and off reaction if I keep it down at that engine speed and below for normal activity. Might be something Triumph could change with an ECU update. Owners, I encourage all to respond when Triumph sends those feedback requests, let them know!
We have some fairly rough back roads that are my normal haunts and I feel the entire suspension is becoming more compliant. My rear shock is on the softest preload setting and I'm at 165 pounds with almost 300 miles on the bike.
Photo above: Resting in the shade with the new flyscreen mounted.
Cheers, Mike #1614
(reply to Mike) Beautiful photo, Mike, and good comments, thank you for sharing! Hope to see you in Utah... THUMP! THUMP! #000.
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Post below are ...FROM EARLIER UPDATES ... for review:
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT:
TRIUMPH HAS "TRIUMPHED" WITH THEIR NEW FOUR-STROKE SINGLE............. (05-02-24) WELCOME TO THE THUMPERGARAGE PAGE! (view other pages on this site before kickstands up!)
Hi Jack and club members...
Just posted this on the Triumph 400 Forum: https://www.triumph400forum.com/threads/four-stroke-singles-national-owners-club-fssnoc.43/post-207
Hope to see you in July with my new Caspian Blue 400.
I have saddle stays and a luggage rack coming from India (the bikes are made in India by Bajaj in the same factory that manufactures KTM 390 series), and a flyscreen from China. My Cortech luggage should fit great.. 🤞🤞
I just got mine 2 weeks ago and have about 130 miles on it. Hoping I can get the 600 mile service done by mid June before the UTAH THUMPERCAFE LUNCH. Cheers, Mike #1614
(REPLY) THANKS, MIKE - GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU! KEEP US POSTED AND SEE YOU IN UTAH IN JULY! - #000
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Triumph Speed 400 ...
328 miles now and a few more thoughts. Speedometer shows 5% fast and odo is 4% long. So, at a true 60, the speedo shows 63 mph. And after traveling a true 100 miles, the odo shows 104 miles. I would say that is about par for the course for most bikes.
I feel the bike is geared too low , especially in first and second. This is trials bike gearing. I intend to re-gear it to 40/16 from a stock 43/15. Might even go 40/17. Been testing these changes and my bike seems to pull this with ease. The hill I use is long and steep. It pulls this easily at the rpm I intend to have in my new top gear. I’m looking to knock 1000 rpm off the 60 mph cruise. This will also make the low gears more useful.
In the newsletter, Thumper News #155, a member mentioned that the bike was sensitive on the throttle at low speeds. This may be due to the gearing being too low. It may amplifie the effect. To me, my bike is much nicer to ride with taller gears. Been getting 72 mph on all my rides. Would hope to do better with higher gearing.
That’s it Jack. Hope it is of interest. Ben, 5462
Forgot to say I have fitted the factory rack with my small GIVI box. Probably about 12 pounds box plus stuff. Bike seems to ride better with this on and was just a touch firm without. I’m 6 feet and 210 lbs dressed to ride. The bike is very comfortable for me and doesn’t feel small. I'm very pleased with it and will work on getting it geared to my liking. Ben, 5462
(REPLY) ... Yes, your comments are always of interest, Ben! Thanks for sharing what you are up to with Triumph's latest Single ... good stuff! - #000.
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Hey Tripple O,
After reading Kerry’s (#4543 AZ.) report on the new Triumph 400, I felt that I needed to comment:
It seems like motorcycle designers/engineers take great joy in making oil filters as inaccessible as they possibly can. If you remember back in the mid 70’s (actually late 1975), Moto Guzzi finally added a spin-on oil filter to their V twin motors. Great, right?
Except ... that they decided to put it INSIDE the oil pan! To get to it you had to remove 16 bolts and drop the oil pan. Very messy and labor intensive to say the least. At least they only recommended changing the oil filter every 9000 miles (every third oil change). With the large amount of oil in a Guzzi motor (approximately 3 1/2 quarts) this didn’t seem to hurt anything. I have a 1976 850T3 that I bought new and have followed this regimen of oil changes at 3000 miles and oil and filter change at 9000 miles. That has been 48 years and 260,500 miles ago and it’s still going strong.
In my fleet, I also have a 1978 Yamaha XS500 twin. To access the oil filter on that one you have to remove the left foot peg, the gear shift lever and then 6 bolts in a cover to get to the oil filter. What were these designers/engineers thinking?? Keeps things interesting I guess.
Sadly I had to let one of my Singles go last week.
I sold my 1986 Yamaha SRX600 Super Single.
If it would have had an electric starter on it, as the later models did, I would have kept it, but??? Very nice low mileage bike with only 9,000 miles on it. It went to a good home so that counts for a lot. I told the new owner about the FSSNOC and gave him the membership application so we’ll see if he joins or not.
Jack, just got my new club hat in Monday’s (29th) mail. VERY NICE hat!! I really like the look of it and the classy buckle to adjust the size. First class stuff.
Ride when you can and cherish your days.
Neil Hemenway. a.k.a. “Maynard” FSSNOC #5208 Wisconsin
(REPLY) Hey, Maynard ... Can't disagree with anything you wrote or say it better.
(A) I put 30,000 on a Moto-Guzzi Hot Rod Griso model. It still had twice as much brake pad material left than any other bike I've ever rode had at zero miles and brand new! They build some tuff stuff! When, upon my purchase, I rode it out the dealer's door, he leaned over and said, "Now, go ride the #@x& out of it...!"
(B) I've had two SRX-6 Yamahas as well - great, great Single, but yeah, a very unique kickstarter system!
(C) My motorcycle career was at a very successful Honda-Yamaha Shop for 30 years, we sold lots of the TX500's...
(D) And lastly, I totally agree with your assessment of our new club cap! In fact, I'm wearing mine as I type ... Jack, FSSNOC #000 ... and ... thank you for your input, please post again!
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TRIUMPH SPEED 400 - 600 MILE SERVICE:
#4543, and Little Speedy (from WEBSITE UPDATE for 04-25-24)
Thu, Apr 25 at 9:25 AM
Well, did the 600-mile first service on the Triumph Speed 400. What a PITB! Definitely could not have done it without the owner's manual.
The oil filter is hidden behind a cover. And that cover has a cover. So, two bolts to get the "cover finisher" off and then 5 bolts (one of which is hidden by the cover finisher) to get the "cover" off. All of that gets you to the oil filter cover. So, 9 bolts before you see the oil filter. Then two drain plugs, each with a screen that needs to be cleaned off. One of the oil drain plugs I wouldn't have noticed without the manual. Bother.
And 10W-50 oil, yet another weight of oil to stock. Supposedly don't need to change the oil again for 10,000 miles! That's not happening. Think I'll stick to 3000 mile intervals.
Also, the dealer doesn't have all the o-rings one is supposed to change out upon doing the oil change. Didn't have filters, either. Luckily, it's the same filter used by the KTM 390. Joys of a first year bike, something I don't usually purchase. Sigh.
But then there's the bike itself. Which I really like. Now that we're past 600 miles, gonna start opening it up. Only been using 6000 rpm, gonna see what that 9500 rpm redline feels like pretty soon! Gotta say, it's really smooth up to 6000 rpm, which is right at 65 mph indicated in 6th.
Interestingly the gas mileage for the first three tanks has been: 54.6 (the dealer may not have completely filled the tank), 67.2 and 80.9! Does require premium gas.
And yes, tubeless tires. The tires on the Speed are Metzeler Sportec M9 RRs. 110/70 R17 front and 150/60 R17 rear.
That's all for now! Kerry #4543, AZ
(REPLY TO KERRY and CLUB MEMBERS)
WOW! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! THANK YOU, KERRY!!
The conversation here on our club website is meant to go both ways, the club talks to the members, the members talk to the club ... Viola! Great stuff, Kerry! Very helpful, very interesting...
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